What Does it Mean to Be Living “IN That Day”

In the last few days my heart was disturbed by news reports coming from the middle-east where people are dying as they try to leave Afghanistan. Why did the American administration pull the army and marines out first? I am a veteran of the Vietnam war and I see so many similarities to how that war ended with millions who were loyal to the American cause, “to save the world from communism,” were trapped in a ruthless communist takeover facing death or imprisonment. When this happened back then, all I could think of was “All those millions of lives wasted for nothing!” It was personal for me because I knew some of the men who died over there. After the fall of Saigon and months of being depressed, I finally came into my Father’s rest, believing that this was all part of what had to take place so that I would quit seeking the political answers the kingdoms of this world provide and turn to Christ for everything needed in my life.

This time around, after being pulled down into that mess in the middle-east and feeling anger and depression set in, through the prayer of myself and others I was set free before that crisis was over. It is here in this victory that I am able to see what Isaiah was prophesying about in a personal way.

Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the LORD has risen upon you. For behold, darkness shall cover the earth, and thick darkness the peoples; but the LORD will arise upon you, and his glory will be seen upon you. (Isa 60:1-2, ESV2011)

Susanne Schuberth recently posted a blog article [1] that focused on the following verses,

In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you.” (John 14:20 ESV)

In that day you will ask nothing of me. Truly, truly, I say to you, whatever you ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you. Until now you have asked nothing in my name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full.” (John 16: 23-24 ESV)

In that day you will ask in my name, and I do not say to you that I will ask the Father on your behalf; for the Father himself loves you, because you have loved me and have believed that I came from God.” (John 16:26-27 ESV)

She wrote somethings in that article that got my attention.

Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full.” Can it be that simple? You and I ask God something, whether it is a prayer or a question that bothered us for a long time already, we receive an answer, our prayer is answered shortly and therefore our joy increases with every additional request answered. While our joy is increasing, we somehow automatically turn away from our old ways of thinking and reasoning since we realize that in God’s person alone ALL questions that could ever be asked are answered. Furthermore, He provides everything we might ever need because He is a loving Father! His presence is so breathtaking to our own spirit that our whole life on earth turns into a shadow of sorts, compared with His wonderful light, life, and love that keep drawing us further and further upward…

I commented the following on her blog,

Susanne, thank you for sharing those wonderful verses from Jesus’ words [and what you learned from them]. I had to read them again and again for they are deep. I was reading T. A. Sparks and He was pointing out that the Father is ours to have a personal relationship with if we are IN Christ as the Father is in Him. We who are living and walking in the Spirit are one with Him in all that we ask and do. His will is our will. It is no longer living like we are earthly orphans left behind to be alone because Jesus went to be with the Father. This is why Jesus called the Holy Spirit our Comforter. To be filled with the Holy Spirit is to live lives inside the Holy of Holies in Heaven [which is Christ Himself].

In Hebrews we read:

Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holy place by the blood of Jesus ,by the way which he dedicated for us, a new and living way, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; and having a great priest over the house of God; let us draw near with a true heart in fullness of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our body washed with pure water: (Heb 10:19-22, ERV)

In That Day You Will Ask In My Name…

Jesus said in the verses above that we should ask anything of the Father in His name. What does this mean? Some teach that we can ask for anything we want and it will be ours?. This reminds me of the story of Aladdin who found a magic lamp with a genie inside. All he had to do was rub the lamp and out popped the genie saying, “Yes, Master, what can I do for you?” I’m sorry, but James had something to say about this kind of carnal thinking in the church.

What causes quarrels and what causes fights among you? Is it not this, that your passions are at war within you? … You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions. You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. Or do you suppose it is to no purpose that the Scripture says, “He yearns jealously over the spirit that he has made to dwell in us”? But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.” Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you… (Jas 4:1-8, ESV2011)

God does not feed our flesh with all its worldly desires. To do so would be to inhibit our spiritual growth IN Christ. So often I have heard church people add on to the end of their requests from God, “And we ask all these thing in Jesus’ mighty name, Amen!” To ask anything in His name, J-E-S-U-S, is not some kind of magic incantation that God has to obey! He is not our private genie! To pray this way is all so shallow and worldly, bordering on superstition. I continued to comment the following on Susanne’s blog:

As I meditated on this I could see that we first have to be IN Christ in all that that relationship means. To be “IN Jesus’ name” is to be in His very person-hood and thus in ALL that HE is in our relationship with the Father. Here all that the Father wishes for Him and for us is the same for we are one with them. It is not to use “magic” words that get God to move according to our own fleshly desires. All three of the verses [from John’s gospel] you shared are speaking of a believer’s relationship with the Father IN Christ in which we are “keeping that channel open” by being quick to listen to the Spirit and obey the will of the Father and confessing our faults when we miss it. Jesus’ words in this verse come to mind and they say it all,

“But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things [the needs of our lives as human beings] will be added to you.” (Matt 6:33, ESV2011)

It is a matter having the mind of Christ operating within us and our lives and wants redirected accordingly. With God it is all about us living according to HIS good pleasure (living in HIS kingdom and HIS righteousness), not the pleasures of our old natures. This is the very attitude of Jesus Himself (both here on earth and in heaven) the one who lives IN HIS name.

Speaking of what the phrase “in that day” means, someone pointed out that God does not tell time with a clock or calendar in view, but rather He goes so by eras. The previous spiritual era was the era of Moses, Israel and the Law. Some say that the era of His grace came in with the advent of Jesus Christ.

Merriam-Webster’s dictionary defines Era – a fixed point in time from which a series of years is reckoned.

When Jesus said “In that day…” The day He is speaking of is the one in God’s time table we are living in at present. It started when the Holy Spirit was sent to dwell in those who believed in Him on the day of Pentecost. Before that day the Spirit would move on different vessels of God, but up until that time He never llved in them and this makes all the difference with the level of intimacy we enjoy with our Father and Jesus today. We who believe in Christ and have His Spirit within us we are IN that day.

Growing IN Christ As We Learn of Him

As I thought on this issue of the Father answering all our questions as they come up, it occurred to me that the He could not answer all that is entailed in each of our questions in one fell swoop. Even answering one question about His kingdom spread over time would take longer than our time here on earth. He sees from His infinite perspective and we have to grow into each portion He shows us before the next facet of the answer can be given us. That growth requires experience and sometimes trials and suffering. Paul wrote:

…But we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us. (Rom 5:3-5, ESV2011)

The natural man learns by accumulating knowledge and so often pride wells up with it, but when God teaches us, it requires a change in our hearts. This is why it is such a delusion to think that we can get a degree in theology and a title to go with it so we can have it all figured out and go out and teach others. As Paul said, “If any man thinks he knows something let him know this, he knows nothing at all as he should.” We have all known teenagers that we have tried to talk with and no matter what the subject is they think they already know all about it. When we think we know all about things, we quit learning and become unteachable.

As we grow in Christ we come to understand that the call of God is an upward call and that growth in the Spirit requires not only spiritual knowledge, but being released from the downward pull of this world. Until that release has been worked in us, we will never know what it means to dwell in heavenly places in Christ (see Ephesians 2:4-7). Being lead into all truth is a life changing process that should start in our lifetimes. What we may have learned from reading a verse in the Bible ten years ago is not what He is showing us from the same verse today. As we grow into a thing He shows us, we are no longer the same person with the same perspective of God because His truths take hold in us and change us and we grow to know Him more perfectly. I believe Isiah prophesied of this very thing.

​For to us a child is born, to us a son is given… and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor… of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end… (Isa 9:6-7, ESV2011)

To grow into our heavenly place IN Christ is to welcome the increase of His governing influence in our lives. And living in His perfect will for us is to know His wonderful peace within. When He answers a question, especially when the answer involves the increase of HIS kingdom, it becomes a seed that keeps growing inside us. This is why Paul, after many years of being taught by Jesus Christ was able to write from his heart, “Not that I have yet attained or were already perfected, but I press on for the HIGH calling of God in Christ Jesus.” Yes, Paul was given a “high calling” right from his encounter with Jesus on the Damascus road. In fact, after many years he met with the other apostles who were still in Jerusalem and he as able to say afterwards, “…they added nothing to me.” Nobody knew Jesus after the Spirit like Paul. He knew that the Jesus who had confronted him was so big that in his lifetime he would never be able to encompass that Infinite Being and all that it means to be IN Christ.

Susanne Schuberth wrote in the comment section of her blog article:

“I [have] asked God things about my personal life, about trials, and similar things about which I was not so sure I had heard from Him rightly before. When He allows these questions to be raised in His presence, then He answers them as it was the Holy Spirit who nudged us to ask. Moreover, God’s presence is so calming that our questions seem to disappear most of the time. That reminds me of the following Scripture, “Be still, and know that I am God.” (Ps 46:10 ESV)

This is a profound discovery. I think that these two states of being–“in His presence” and “In His name,”– are referring to the same thing. When we are abiding in His rest, our panicky, restless and questioning natures are calmed to the point we can hear our Father’s heart for us. It is here we commune with Him in the quietness of our souls, Spirit to spirit. David wrote of this very thing.

Lord, my heart is not haughty, nor my eyes lofty: neither do I exercise myself in great matters, or in things too high for me. Surely I have behaved and quieted myself, as a child that is weaned of his mother: my soul is even as a weaned child. (Ps 131:1-2, AKJV)

Years ago a pastor asked me how I was doing and I answered, “Not too bad under the circumstances.” To this he replied, “What are you doing under there?” We spend way too much of our lives living under what is being thrown at us by Satan and the world. Imagine the spiritual reality that Paul and Barnabas must have been dwelling in. After being flogged and chained to a prison wall in total darkness, they were able to sing praises to the living God. In that moment of heart felt love for Jesus, their praise literally brought the house down and broke the chains that bound them! Now, THAT is living above one’s circumstances! When Paul was imprisoned by the Emperor Nero in Rome, he was able to write, “Paul, a prisoner of Jesus Christ…” He might have been a prisoner of Nero as the world saw it, but he was in heavenly places IN Christ Jesus. It is in this place of resting in His loving presence that all those things that were so important in our daily lives seem to melt away and by faith they are placed under HIS authority. It is here that we find perfect faith, joy, peace and perfect love that casts out all our fears. It is here that we can arise and shine and have the glory of the Lord rising upon us.

Dear Father, please do whatever it takes in our lives to bring us into your heavenly reality IN Christ Jesus. Amen.

[1] https://enteringthepromisedland.wordpress.com/2021/08/18/in-that-day/

19 comments on “What Does it Mean to Be Living “IN That Day”

  1. Amen to your prayer, Michael, and thank you for the link to my blog. 🙂

    As I recall my replies to you on EPL, I said that we all need to experience “that day” individually. Of course, it is not only one day as you explained above. It is the beginning of seeing who we really are in Christ as we can approach our Heavenly Father like we never could before. Since Christ is in us and we are in Christ, we now have fellowship with both of them (see 1 Jn 1:3).

    I do like the second picture you posted with these many flowers, my brother! ❤

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    • Michael says:

      You are welcome to the pingback, dear sister. Thank you for being used by the Spirit as an inspiration for this blog I wrote. Seeing with the eyes of our hearts is so necessary for that is where Jesus lives within us. As Paul put it so well,

      “I cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him; having the eyes of your heart enlightened, that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, and what the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to that working of the strength of his might which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and made him to sit at his right hand in the heavenly places,” (Eph 1:16-20, ERV)

      I like the second picture the most as well. Dorothy and I went to the north Idaho state fair yesterday and that is where the pictures were taken. I wanted to put the second picture first, but I couldn’t figure how to move the pictures around once they were inserted in the rough draft on this clunky app called WordPress. I sure miss the classic version.

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    • Michael says:

      Susanne, you wrote:

      “It is the beginning of seeing who we really are in Christ [In THAT Day] as we can approach our Heavenly Father like we never could before. Since Christ is in us and we are in Christ, we now have fellowship with both of them (see 1 Jn 1:3)”.

      This morning as I read my “Open Windows” devotional, Sparks was emphasizing all that is ours in Christ,

      “‘God in all His fullness was pleased to live in Christ.’ (Colossians 1:19 NLT) Do not take these as just words. Do understand that in every fragment there is this truth: In the dispensation [“In THAT Day”] in which you and I are now living God has come to us in all His fullness. There is no more to be added. In His Son we have the absolute fullness of God, and it is out of that fullness that He speaks to us in His Son.”
      https://www.austin-sparks.net/english/books/000975.html

      In Hebrews we read the opening sentence,

      “Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things…”(Heb 1:1-2, ESV2011)

      And in First John,

      “That which we have seen and heard we proclaim also to you, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ.” (1John 1:3, ESV2011)

      It is important to see that John in the above verse added this caveat, “That you too may have fellowship with us… our fellowship is with the Father and His Son…” So many we have known over the years have tried to have fellowship with us without them knowing the fellowship of the Father and the Son for themselves. As much as we would love to have fellowship with them, it falls flat and is two dimensional at best. It just doesn’t work. This explains why. I know that this sounds exclusive, but we must first enter into the Father’s rest in the Son (in that heavenly seventh Day) if we are to have spiritual fellowship with one another.

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      • The problem with trying to make fellowship horizontally work is that the Holy Spirit is not in it. We need to have this vertical fellowship with God and Christ before we can walk in the Spirit together with others. Like Jesus said, “Where two or three are gathered IN MY NAME, there I am in the midst of them.” He is the one Who calls us into this fellowship that is to be led by Him alone as He is the Head of the Body.

        I am afraid every other kind of fellowship is fleshly if not led by false spirits also. 🙄 Therefore the Holy Spirit has been so rigid over the years whenever someone who was driven by another spirit tried to come into our fellowship in order to destroy it. We were not always aware what was going on until God gave us severe warnings. False soulish empathy for these ppl concerned has been our main hindrance in the beginning. But Christ as the Word of God cuts right through between our soul and the Spirit (see Heb 4:12). It is always either or, for the Lord in His Spirit or against Him by following our soulish desires.

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      • Michael says:

        This is so true, Susanne. The enemy constantly seeks to destroy or disrupt the fellowship that is ours in the Father and the Son. No wonder that churches that do not abide in that Day with them are constantly in division as they try to accommodate everyone who joins themselves to them for the sake of numbers. This about says it all…

        “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walks about, seeking whom he may devour:Whom resist steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.” (1Pet 5:8-9, KJ2000)

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      • This Scripture reminds me of another one.

        “Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” (Js 4:7 ESV)

        A few verses before in Peter’s letter (verse 6) it says a similar thing… “Humble yourself under the mighty hand of God.” Not under the seemingly powerful hand of any man who does not know the living God!!

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      • Michael says:

        Susanne, you wrote,

        “’Humble yourself under the mighty hand of God.’ Not under the seemingly powerful hand of any man who does not know the living God!!”

        Paul wrote,

        That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; (Eph 4:14, KJV)

        Yes, there are so many demonic assaults on the church to the point that organized religion has become a demonic system.

        “… the devil, as a roaring lion, walks about, seeking whom he may devour… knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world [the kosmos, Satan’s system, not IN Christ].”

        George and I wrote about this deception in our article “Systematized Deception”,

        Ephesians 4:14 would more correctly read, “so that we may no longer be minors, tossed to and fro and being carried about by every wind of teaching, by human caprice, by craftiness with a view to the systematizing of the deception.”

        Darby translates this passage similarly.

        “…in order that we may be no longer babes, tossed and carried about by every wind of *that* teaching which is in the sleight of men, in unprincipled cunning with a view to systematized error. (Ephesians 4:14 Darby)

        Vincent’s Word Studies captures the entire thought in two words, “Error organizes.” The King James rendition, “lie in wait,” is represented in the Greek text by the compound word methodeia, which means “a deliberate planning or system.”
        http://awildernessvoice.com/SystematizedDeception.html

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      • Well put, Michael.

        You and George also wrote there,

        “According to Jesus, everyone who is born of the Spirit is like the wind (John 3:8), not subject to systematic control, but into the flow of the Spirit.”

        […]

        “Some might ask, “Didn’t Paul write, ‘Let all things be done decently and in order’ (1 Corinthians 14:40)? Doesn’t this mean that we should order our gathering? And that if there’s going to be order there must be a director?”

        Yes, Paul did write that, and yes, there is a Director. Paul wrote this qualifying statement right after he informed the Corinthian believers who that Director is. Divine order comes directly from God by His Spirit. Divine order is in the Spirit.”

        Amen!! God makes our spirits flow in the direction He wants without asking us before, just as He orders our “gathering” (here, virtual fellowship) as He alone is the Head of our coming together in the Spirit. We must not forget that we are only members of the Body if we don’t rely on our self-will and cut ourselves off both from the Head and then from the whole Body, too.

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      • Michael says:

        I am glad you read our former article, Susanne. I agree with what you said about going with the flow of the Spirit both in meetings and individually. This is where true fellowship comes in, not when our flesh bucks against the Spirit. As John put it,

        “If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.” (1John 1:6-7, ESV2011)

        Thank you Father that you have given us Your Spirit to lead us INTO ALL truth that we might walk in the Light of Christ just as You are in the Light and thank you so much that the blood of Jesus cleanses us when we miss that mark (sin). Amen.

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  2. Laurie Harris says:

    Very inspiring and wonderful writing, and a joy to read this morning!

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  3. Allan Halton says:

    Michael, my conviction is that by “in that day” Jesus had in mind the day of the sending of the Paraclete, which is what you have said.

    It’s also my conviction that the union with Father and Son is ours the instant we are baptized in Holy Spirit. But it seems to take time before we become fully conscious of this. Perhaps it would take less time if newly Spirit-baptized believers were taught that this fellowship is theirs from the get-go, and they should therefore anticipate the growing awareness of it.

    You wrote, “Years ago a pastor asked me how I was doing and I answered, “Not too bad under the circumstances.” To this he replied, “What are you doing under there?”

    That’s a keeper, thanks for sharing this!

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    • Michael says:

      You are welcome, Allan. What is sad to me is the division that exists throughout Christendom, not just denominationally, but right down to the level of two brothers in any gathering of the body of Christ. Instead division is allowed and even expected among Christians as they cling to their pride and chose sides instead of repenting for the sake of the witness of the unity of the Father and the Son as well as the unity of all who are born of the Spirit. Jesus’ final prayers included His prayer for this unity, “that the world might know that you [Father] have sent me.” I believe that Satan has had a heyday in the churches and as a result he has destroyed an effective message of the gospel in the world, resulting in the world wide mess we see today.

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  4. “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends” (John 15: 13).

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